Shirley Alexander [SA]: Zoe, you know that assisted suicide is legal in Oregon now. We could drive you down there to my sister's house. Zoe Alexander [ZA]: I know that, Mom. I do not want to do that. I just want to ride the entire wave. I hope it does not get to be too much for you. SA: Don't say that, Zo. ZA: For now could you just get me out of here and up to Erin's cabin? SA: Yes we will. ZA: Actually Id like to go camping again too. Erin Hughes [EH]: Yah, well do that too. Just rest now. Sarah McLachlan: In the arms of the angels. ZA: --Erin, want to read some more? EH: ok. [Pause] Ananda: I have heard that on one occasion the Master was staying at Varanasi, in the Game Refuge at Isipatana. There he addressed the group of five monks: The Buddha: Physical form, monks, is not the self. If physical form were the self, this body would not lend itself to dis-ease. One could get physical form to be like this and not be like that. But precisely because physical form is not the self, it lends itself to dis-ease. And one cannot get physical form to be like this and not be like that.../ How do you construe thus, monks--is physical form constant or inconstant?. The 5 monks: Inconstant. The Buddha: And whatever is inconstant: is it easeful or stressful? The 5 monks: Stressful. The Buddha: And is it right to assume with regard to whatever is inconstant, stressful, subject to change, that "This is mine. This is my self. This is what I am?" The 5 monks: No it is not right to assume that. ZA: Thank you. That is enough. Do you agree it is not right? EH: What? ZA: Not to assume physical form is mine? SA: Well, I think the Bible would say that. St. Paul: Not exactly. I specifically said resurrection of the body -- your body. EH: Thats true. That was his position. St. Paul: The stuff from the Greeks about immortality of the soul got imported in later. That so-called Saint Augustine really fucked things up. ZA: That means you should be able to deal with non-density ok? Why dont you straighten out those guys in Kansas? SA: Where is this from? EH: The Buddha. SA: Oh. Should we be reading it? ZA: It is ok. It will not hurt. By "not right to assume" do you suppose he means "not true" or does he mean "not helpful"? SA: I think you should focus, dear, on what is going to help you. ZA: Yes. I cannot imagine him all that interested in ontology anyway. The self exists and this stressful form is mine. To pretend otherwise is fantasy. But it is not a good practice --it is just not right, it just does not help --to get fixated on its being mine. Marvin Gaye [MG]: Hey! Hey! what's happenin'? EH: Hmm..this looks interesting-- MG: It's a party-- Ananda: The group of five monks delighted at his words. And while this explanation was being given, the hearts of the group of five monks, through not clinging (not being sustained), were released from the mental effluents. SA: What are effluents? ZA: Like sewage, I think. SA: Oh. [Pause] Erin: Dana, how about this? Jo Macy [JM]: And Id like to say that I have yet to meet anyone who is not in grief over what they see happening. Anyone who is conscious today sees that there is hunger, that there is inequality and progressive destruction. MG: I just want to ask a question: who really cares? There'll come a time when the world won't be singing .. Flowers won't grow -- no! bells won't be ringing. -- Who really cares? JM: Many in the East and in the Third World have immediate survival issues uppermost in their minds--feeding the family, getting shelter. Among affluent Westerners this suffering appears as awareness of a kind of global pain. It does not necessarily depend on ones politics. It is even felt among those like Joe who say they arent interested in reducing armaments or the decimation of the rainforests. Everywhere there is a dis-ease, a malaise, a grief that we cannot count on there being a future. I think for most people this pain for the world is barely conscious; it is seldom discussed. MG: Who's willing to try? Martin Luther King, Jr: I have seen the promised land! I may not get there with you BBC: Aung San Suu Kyi agonizing with spouse dying far from Myanmar. Her husband, British scholar Michael Aris, is dying of cancer, but Myanmars military government wont let her return if she goes to visit him. ZA: I believe he preached those words on the very day he was assassinated. JM: Joe has a self-protection mechanism, to protect his mind from fear, especially the fear that his mind will lose control. "I cant bear to think about it because I might fall apart. I cant bear to think about this because I might get stuck in despair. I might shatter into a thousand pieces. Dont ask me to take it in." There is fear of experiencing the pain that goes with this information. Jesus wept. [Scully: That is the only question you have so far?--] SA: Zoe, did you say something? ZA: oh ..I am sorry, I think i must be hallucinating. Could you please stop Erin putting drugs in my food, treating me like a fuckin dog? I can take an Advil when I need it. SA: Yes, dear. Im sorry. EH: Im sorry, Z. I apologize, baby. I wont do it again, I promise. ZA: Ok. Dont. Christopher Titmuss [CT]: Are you saying, "dont close off to the pain"? JM: Yes. To close off to the pain is to go dead inside. It is a form of death. I believe the greatest danger Zoe faces is denial--thinking she cant look at the dangers--in economics, in the environment, or with the military. She imagines she is so fragile, that if she looks at whats happening shell break. MG: Mother, mother! --There's too many of you crying-- CT: But it takes courage to open up ones heart to the pain of the planet. Jo, where is this courage going to come from? Muhammed Ali: I aint got nothin against them Viet Cong. They aint never called me nigger. Martin Luther King, Jr: It is a war that he considers unjust, his conscience will not allow him to do it, and yes, I certainly would support him. His Holiness the Dalai Lama [DL]: The Buddha also wept. Dont let the motionless statues fool you. That was only one pose! Besides, Jesus was only 32 years old --or 33? He was cut down so young! I can assure you when Siddhartha the Buddha was 32 years old he wept many times; --for it was when he was searching and seeking, earnestly, before he was established in the buddha-nature of mind, coming out of concentrated states and realizing they were not going to last. Sure, yes, concentration stabilizes the mind. Yet he really could not control even those states. When the heart opens it becomes obvious the merely calm mind is not really what he sought-- Dr. Laura Schlessinger [LS]: Yet he was wasting his life-- [Scully: Sorry, pardner. That would be a negative. I cannot seem to get the DVTMDs green light to come on. Guess its not working. Ill handle it, --Arent you thinking of Dr.Ruth? I dont believe shes here.--At least not yet.] Lauryn Hill. Lauryn Hill?: You may win some, but you just lost one!! Dana, can we patch in the whole song? Larry King [LK]: So he wept many times between the ages of 29 and 35?! ZA: But age is irrelevant, isn't it? How old you are. Younger, older, does not matter. Even when younger. Like when the Buddha was leaving his wife and child to take up the renunciates life. Even when he was older than 35. Even when weeping the heart is open and free. It is nearer-- John Wesley: As I walked in Aldersgate, my heart was strangely warmed! ZA: I know! I know exactly what you mean! Yet I would like to ask you something: Were you wrapped up in it? Or free in it? To what extent? I am so curious! I would love to talk with you about this. Me, I needed some concentration practice to deal with the power of the open warm heart, to get some stability with it & not to fear it--I mean, not to fear being swept away by it. Tsok Nyi Rinpoche [TN]: And then abide in empty essence, cognizant by nature, devotion and compassion flowing like water in a river, from little streams, off dancers, off flowers upon which the morning dew has condensed from water vapor in thin air. Dr. Laura: But according to Epstein you isolated the self as a result! You got stuck in calm separation, stable concentration! ZA: Relax Joe Carson [JC]: Your critical mind, what I am calling rage, does not blend into desire. ZA: What about that time up in the tent? Mark Epstein [ME]: The girl you want is not named Zo! JC: Oh, yes. I do remember that! The Buddha: my heart was composed like a fine thoroughbred steed. Mark McGwire: You mean Zoe? Sarah McLachlan: In the arms of an alien-- David Cone: I've wondered if I'd ever get another chance to pitch a perfect game. Sammy Sosa: Zoe Alexander? Sarah McLachlan: --may you find some comfort here. Cone: Going into the latter innings today, that was running through my mind, about how many times I've been close and how this might be the last chance I get. McGwire: The artist up in Seattle? Cone: My heart was pumping!! I could feel it through my uniform! [unidentified]: I saw the suitcase in the water, I just knew it was from JFKs plane! SA: Look at the tv, Zo. The MTV Real World kids are on a ship going to India and two of the girls are fighting. They wont even talk to each other, and the other four are trying to help. Now they have to work together to install solar power in a village. Oh man. Look at the village! ZA: They are doing a good job on this. I feel so at home in India. I would love to travel there with you some time, Mom. [unidentified]: My heart was pounding so hard! ZA: Let me venture this. The heart opening selflessly in love is nirvana. Then it literally doesnt matter to you what happens to you or does not happen. EH: I thought nirvana was cessation-- no experience at all. Vast nothingingness--isn't that the goal? ZA: Maybe that's only deep concentration. Actually I dont know. What's relevant is to stop grasping-- one's heart opens, literally--that's the relevant cessation-- to face the greed, selfishness, all that shit --to get some measure of freedom Elvis: You are always ZA: Happens quite naturally when you fall in love. EH: The Buddha never used this image because maybe it just didn't happen then? Elvis: You are always on my mind. Dr. Ruth: Or for that matter just a plain good old-fashioned spur-of-the-moment fuck! Its not necessarily just a genital thing, you know. ME: The Chinese expression for orgasm, "having a high tide" describes this effectively. In a high tide everything is floating, the self is submerged or dissolved, there is no longer any foothold or point of reference, but it is not chaos. I wrote about it on page 47. ZA: I mean literally. Literally. You are floating free. Derek Parfit [DK]: The glass tunnel separating me from others dissolves. Patsy Cline: I fall to pieces LH: Youre just too good to be true. Casey Kasem: Thats a cover. [Unidentified, country western singer]: Not too good to be true-- LH: Cant take my eyes off of you. [Unidentified, country western singer]: Just too good to be true to you. Joe Carson: Thats a joke, Zo. The kitchen sink. [Scully: You need to distinguish, Mulder, between the use and mention of the English phrase "the kitchen sink." You used the phrase in your most recent inquiry whereas I have just mentioned it here. Since this transcription consists solely of words and does not contain any porcelain, plastic, stainless steel, or rubber of any kind I will assume you intended to mention rather than use the phrase "the kitchen sink" when you asked me what is it doing in this transcription?--which, needless to add, is contrary to what you actually asked. Is this correct? Please reply.] ZA: Usually is diminished fast, yet falling freely in love one knows-- SA: Or when you conceive and give birth. Thats more than a romantic fantasy-- LH: Marchin! Marchin! Marchin! Marchin! --Beautiful beautiful Zion! Mohandas Gandhi: There is enough for everyones need but not enough for everyones greed. ZA: Kids falling in love are knowing it all the time. Of course its mixed up with yearning and images, wanting to be kissed-- Garrison Keillor: Love belongs to those whose hearts have been broken. Sixpence None the Richer: Kiss me! ZA: --and usually so fleeting! Eurythmics: who am I to disagree? Sixpence None the Richer: Bring your flowered hat! Well take the trail marked on your fathers map! JC: Transcending myself for a few moments. Britney Spears: Give me a sign! SA: Huh? Britney: -- Hit me, baby, one more time! Eurythmics: some of them want to use you. SA: Why would she say that? Eurythmics: Hey! Hey! ZA: I dont know, Mom. I never understood it either. Shes only 17. It was #1 for a couple of weeks last winter. Eurythmics: I saved the world today! ZA: I never promised to do that-- EH: Of course not. ZA: --or any magic either. Just some skills. Shantila: Want to hear a poem? ZA: Yes! Shantila: Its about a fish. SA: Zoe, earlier did you mean Nirvana, the rock band?! ZA: Mom, the hearts' release. Eurythmics: Everybodys happy now! Kurt Cobain: Rape me! Rape me! Rape me! SA: Why does he sing that? Courtney Love: Ok. So he hated rock and roll -- Why not just quit, do something else? ZA: They were married, Mom, had a little girl. He killed himself a few years ago. The girls now about Zos age, four or five, the brilliant age. HHDL: It gets expressed in cultures and lives in all sorts of diverse ways completely independent of conscious thoughts. Its in our bones-- Friedrich Nietzsche: it is nearer than near J. Gordon Liddy: Moreover, I would like to point out that, if I am not mistaken, Nietzsches image of Zarathustra dancing on the mountaintop "6000 feet above man and time" led to uniformed Nazis swing-dancing in Berlin clubs. Sigmund Freud? [Nietzsche?]: [unclear] ...natural selection in the evolution of consciousness. Beastie Boys: As I develop the awakening mind I praise the Buddhas as they shine ZA: What?! So anybody who disagrees with you about how to dot an i is a Nazi!!! Youre the fuckin Nazi, Liddy! Anyway, Lindys Hop started in Harlem on May 20, 1927! And Zarathustra wasnt swing dancing! Hes a raverkid! Hey girl-- dont box him in! [Scully: Re your message: the most natural interpretation of your question, "Scully, who said this?" is that it is self-referential, asking about itself who said it. Now since the message containing the question is signed using your code I would have to assume it was you who said "Scully, who said this?" Are you losing your memory? This is not a good sign, Miller, if you are forgetting what you are saying or perhaps losing track of your identity right in the middle of the utterances that you make. --] Mulder: Miller?! Scully did you just call me Miller? Scully: What? No, you are Mulder, Mulder. Miller is just a character in Perry's book about Weirob. Mulder: No, its not just a character. It was me. But Perry thought my name was Miller. Scully: Yes, I know, Mulder. You have told me many times. We went over this several times that first night when I was sitting out in the van. But to continue. --Are you seeing anyone about this condition? It easily could worsen so that --well, frankly, and I am sorry to have to be so blunt, but it Eminem: My name is
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ok now, where were we? Eminem: My name is Ok lets see. Ive got one. Krishnamurti [K]: The physical organism has its own intelligence, which is made dull through habits of pleasure. These habits destroy the sensitivity of the organism, and this lack of sensitivity makes the mind dull. Such a mind may be alert in a narrow and limited direction and yet be insensitive. HHDL: The Methodists' heart-warming experience, I conjecture, is the same as the five monks' hearts' release. Im not so sure about kids falling in love. [laughing] Maybe a glimpse or two. Even if so it makes a difference how we live. Different practices, differing methods, have varying effects. This can be explored. Robert Thurman: This is the most outrageous new-age watered-down hip-hop crap-version of buddhism I have ever heard! Beastie Boys: For the sake of all beings I seek the enlightened mind that I know Ill reap Lauryn Hill: hey Yall its funny how hip-hop changed the situation ZA: Ok. Sorry. Dana Scully: Yah sorry yall. We just made that up. We were only joking. His Holiness didnt really say it exactly that way but we thought we could imagine him saying it. HHDL: No its true! [Laughing] Ill say it. You do glimpse it when you fall in love! Yet there are better and worse ways to stabilize it in life, make room for it, bring it into daily experience, so we don't have to settle for occasional glimpses of it randomly striking us now and then so that it basically gets forgotten about when we grow up. As human beings we can cultivate and protect it. [Laughing] And, hey girls, have your fun but remember dont get stuck there in those analytical forms of meditation and long footnotes! Robert Thurman: Ok. If he did say it, can you take out what I said before? ZA: Can we take it out, Dana? Hey, I have an idea. Tell him well take it out if he can get Joe a date with his daughter. Hes going to need a new girlfriend in a few days. Scully: With Uma? I dont know. I think shes like way out of Joes league. SA: Besides isnt she married? Erin: Joe doesnt care about that. Scully: Isnt Joe married? Erin: No, we dont think so. Krishnamurti was wrong. ZA: Mom, he does care now. Not the ownership type, but the Alternative Story type. Scully: The what? Erin: Literally sharing nondense identity I think she means. Rather than the mutual co-ownership of dense objects. Im not sure its coherent. Dear MTV: could you please play n sync and Gloria Estefan "the music of my heart" because Im scared because Im starting college and this song will definitely put some courage in my heart. -- Kristen, CA SA: Dana, lets try to get the Pope in too. Would you mind? ZA: Hes said some good stuff. EH: No. thats going too far. ZA: What about when he apologized for the Crusades? That was commendable. EH: Let him apologize for opposing birth control. If he did that, I would vote to put him in. Scully: Mulder would notice it if the Pope were here. K: The interrelationship between the meditative mind and its organism is a constant adjustment in sensitivity; for meditation needs freedom. Freedom is its own discipline. In freedom alone can there be attention. To be aware of inattention is to be attentive. Complete attention is love. It alone can see, and the seeing is the doing. ZA: What the hell is he saying? Do you understand that, Erin? That is meaningless crap. Just hot air. Tell him to shut up. Why does he talk so much? The "P": --love your wife as yourself. Billy Graham [BG]: I thought it sounded pretty good! Hey girl! Dont box him in! Scully: Our pace, our way of life, does not enourage this sensitivity. To feel it requires renunciation-- Dr. Laura: See! There they go again! Erin: --for renunciation is the key, not holding on to anything, a willingness to feel, a courage to be free, continually renewed every moment. It is not a game. It is vital for life. You dont just do it once or twice-- K: --even with culture, words, songs-- SA: Zoe, Joe's on the phone. ZA: Oh. Ok. [Pause] ZA: --Hi baby. [Pause] ZA: Not too hot. [Pause] ZA: I can't think straight. Kinda dizzy. It hurts. Not nauseous though-- [Pause] ZA: its ok. Listening to some music, watching tv. Were having some fun-- Scully: Shh. Dont tell him-- [tape end] |
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