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Bodhicitta

No. --Zoe, what exactly is bodhicitta?
It is when one is firmly grounded in the wish to to be enlightened so as truly to benefit all beings near or far, large or small, attractive or unattractive--
Ok.
--In the jungles, in the oceans, in the air, on the earth, under the earth; fat or skinny, human, non-human
Ok, ok. I get the idea.
If you try to practice lovingkindness, it can almost seem unthinkable.
What?
For instance, to be wishing happiness and wellbeing to all the people and animals on the planet. It is almost unthinkable.
Well, Zo-- you are probably right. It is unthinkable, which means its somewhat phony. So you are deceiving yourself if you--
No. You are wrong, Erin. We can think it.
It is way too vast a thought.
No. The mind can open--
So there is individual good will for every single--
No, silly. Of course not. But what there can be is a vast open kindness that definitely is different from the ordinary small mind, and then the open kind mind then factors into actual specific one on one kindness.
You sound definite.
Yes. I am not speculating about this.
It sounds pretty abstract. Disconnected from simply--
We can think it. And its like in Khunu Rinpoche's great poem. Its in this book right here--

When a foundation of bodhicitta has been laid down

terrible wrongdoing is stopped.

All wholesome activity comes into one's hands;

one is free from anxiety and panic and comes to be stable.

I love that line, free from anxiety and panic. And it is true, when one can shift from preoccupation with self to concern for, interest in, others, one finds stability. He goes on--

If one investigates to find the supreme method

for accomplishing the aims of oneself and others,

it comes down to bodhicitta alone.

The simple wish and intention to be helpful, orienting one's efforts and activities in that direction.
Zoe, do you think it is an extraordinary state of mind, or is it pretty normal?
Good question. I don't know really.
I was thinking about your sermon the other night.
Sermon?
How nondensity factors into our assumptions about life and death. If appreciation of nondensity lessens or dissolves the role of me in practical reasoning, one's practical reasoning is not as self-centered as for one who assumes density.
By the way, Erin, I didn't intend to be proposing some radical new shift in thinking about morality and rationality. On the contrary, I think all the ideas about not being so selfcentered may simply illuminate actual human behavior --
Like what?
--Like when we act in altruistic ways. Consider the typical formulation of the free rider or public goods type of problem: e.g. the problem is how to make sense of people being rational even when in fact they make the sacrifices for the general good --which of course people do all the time. They are deriving meaning and joy by identifying with projects independent of how it factors into some calculation about their own well-being. Put in modest terms: the shift to non-density at least makes it easier to see why their actions make sense when they selflessly act for another person, such as a child, or for that matter for the general good, --when we resolve to try to live that way.
Uh-huh.
Moreover one's perspective is quite different from what is in Uncle Fred's myth of eternal recurrence or any of the other myths one could imagine, including the buddhist reincarnation story where the preoccupation with me is evident in the conventional thinking about it --even when the goal that is posited is to escape rebirth altogether.
I'd rather not get back on that topic of reincarnation.
Ok.
It really is boring and unrealistic to me.
Ok, I know. What I'm saying, ok, is don't assume reincarnation. We exist, briefly. We've rejected density of self and there is no myth to adopt here, simply a decision to see that revising beliefs in accord with nondensity gives us an opportunity to widen our horizon of concern in a perfectly rational way --that is, to widen it to those with whom one has been or will be causally related.
So it might not even be much of a revision, simply a better appreciation for what how one's attitudes fit together.
Right. Exactly. Let my attitudes about my relationship with them--those with whom I am causally interconnected-- become more like the attitudes I tend to have had about my own future and past. Again I'm not proposing anything that is necessarily supposed to be new and radical. The traditional religions certainly cultivate this frame of mind, with the Beastie Boys for example rewording the traditional buddhist boddhisattva vow

For the sake of all beings I seek

The enlightened mind that I know I'll reap

and christians praying

Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.

I would say the traditional religions already have practices that incorporate a compassionate response to non-density rather than a nihilistic response -- and in this respect they are simply way ahead of the responses so far by recent western philosophers like Nietzsche and Derek.
Zo, I didn't really mean to get you going on this again.
Its ok. I don't mind. The mahayana buddhists emphasize the essential role for development of boddhicitta --the spirit of dedicating all one's thoughts and acts for the true benefit of all beings. They emphasize that it cannot be taken for granted, and that it can and needs to be cultivated otherwise our hearts dry up. I don't know if I've got an argument here. That wasn't my point. The point is that reflection on the realities generates a sense of involvement that naturally gives rise to compassion. We have good things because of others, we can affect others in good ways. That sounds trivial but it cannot be taken for granted because if we approach the world in terms of a dense self we easily lose sight of it. We take for granted what has been given to us, as if it were some sort of natural right that we have the wealth of physical and intellectual and spiritual culture when in fact it exists for us only because of countless selfless acts stretching back 800 years, 8000 years, etc. And in the other direction, we get focussed on our own rather trivial brief futures and we lose sight of the vast field stretching before us. Yet when we do cultivate the connection to this field & when a sense of active involvement for The Good is present --behold!
What?
--Happiness!
What a great surprise!
Well it is!
Yes.
Wait. were you being serious?
Yes.
Really?
Sure. I agree with you. It is what human culture is all about. I never had understood why T. S. Eliot was so big on tradition until I began thinking about it in these terms.
Hmm. Yes --specific things like knowing what Plato wrote or about how Einstein used thought experiments, or generally the vast array of current scientific knowledge; or even how to play basketball or knowing how to use the breath as an object of meditation to deepen concentration; or being familiar with the sermon on the mount or the bodhisattva vow -- there is no natural law guaranteeing somehow that human beings are aware of such things or develop in such ways. Maybe to some extent? You might think. -- But --No.!!! -- In general not! Of course there may be some such things that have to be passed on, such as basic moral precepts, if the species is to survive but of course there's nothing guaranteed in nature about the continuation of the human species. So these teachings and practices are part of human culture protected and cultivated in all sorts of ways. And of course we can live with that in mind. Not like it all depends on us, since obviously one individual is not that important, each of us is easily extinguished and not missed very much when gone.
The relevant causal streams are probably so complex as to be inscrutable anyway.

 

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